Constant ripping of Execs/Networks etc = impact?, Does his continued rants hurt him?

[1780's Guy]

So Adam was going on and on, again, to James Gunn this week about the CBS Pilot and how stupid the execs are and how the funniest thing they had in the pilot was something they "hid" from the Execs etc.

Adam has always given the "awwwwwwww, they tell you're not supposed to say anything ... but I do all the time, so what the F? F them" introduction as he launches into a story about something he's working on, or something he was told to be hush-hush about, or about something that he heard.

While he always claims that it never impacts anything (talking about stuff), do you guys really feel that there is no direct OR indirect impact on Adam's career by him constantly shooting his mouth off about stuff? While I'm not asking for Giovanni to come in here and attack me (as it appears I want Adam to filter his thoughts, or something), I just wonder if anyone has ever had the discussion with him that there might be, at least, some indirect effect on his projects/opportunities because he spends a lot of time talking about things when he was asked not to etc.

I suppose there is no real way to ever get an answer - we'll never know if he missed out on something because one of his tirades against some network was heard by some suit, so they chose to go another direction. We'll probably never know if Top Gear USA, for instance, would have had even a bit more of a chance to make it to air/production if he didn't continually talk about it (though he was asked not to).

The good news is that it seems like increased competition is resulting in some pretty decent product, of late, in the sitcom world ... I just wonder if you were an exec who really liked a project that Adam brought in if you might think twice as the constant ranting that would come with it might not be worth the effort to not just crap out another 2-1/2 Men.

[GermanyOrFlorida]

Maybe someone can answer this, but is there a difference in culture between ripping execs in the TV world and ripping them in the world of radio? In radio, ripping on the exec you work for is so prevalent and so widespread across any genre Adam could conceivably be on (talk radio, hot talk, rock radio, etc) that I don't think it was ever an issue before.

I've never heard anyone but the most untouchable television folks (like Sorkin) rip on TV execs.

[crabbyjan]

Robert Blake used to go on Johnny Carson show and complain about 'suits' a lot. It was funny.

Then he became an unemployed loser who lost his good wife, hooked up with a con-artist whore and allegedly (most likely) murdered her.

[HairlessBalls]

I've wondered about this too? He does a lot of trash talking, someone must hear it and get mad.

Is the podcast the only job he has right now?

[so much clearer]

I can picture him saying all that stuff to their faces, actually. As mentioned, many people rant about network execs, I doubt that plays a big part. It's probably how he acts in person, if stories like the DWTS producer not getting the turkey are correct. Yeah, the producer was dumb, but he probably came off as a diva in their eyes.

[ifandorbut]

I'd like to think that the "good people" that became involved into an Adam Carolla Project for television would have a basic understanding of his feelings geared towards "uncreative" people.

Then again....

[Razzles]

His on-air rants probably won't have an effect - executives are used to working with temperamental artists. It's conflicts from his direct interaction with the suits over show development that could get him blacklisted.

[roxxierae]

Adam thinks of himself and presents himself as "one of the good ones" in show business... it's become a huge part of his comedic persona as well. Adam makes with the funny by putting out there that he's a regular joe with a few brain cells to rub together stuck in the midst of all the stupid, condescending, worthless assholes that make up the rest of the industry.

I have no idea what he really acts like in person, but sweet christ does he sound like a pain in the ass to work with from the stories he tells. I appreciate that he probably really is confronted with staggering incompetence every day, but his means of dealing with it seem REALLY inappropriate if his descriptions are accurate. Add to that what seems to be a growing disdain for women and you've got a recipe for a person who may be denied a few opportunities by reputation alone.

I wonder if Adam has enough F.U. money to continue down this path of clinging to his principles to the detriment of the people around him. It would be interesting to see how age and dwindling opportunities affect him, whether he mellows or just gets crazy bitter.

[Pandajuice]

It's hard not to think it affecting his opportunities in some way. Despite how prolific a career he's had, Adam isn't considered a big, bankable name by anyone, so I don't think he is immune to backlash from the things he says or rules he breaks, like someone like Stern is. No one will come out and say, "fuck that guy", but you have to think that somewhere in the back of executives' minds, when they are choosing which shows to bring to air for the Fall schedule, Adam's rants may make them take pause or pass him over completely.

I know if I were an executive and I happened to catch one of his rants about TV, or TV executives, I'd have serious reservations about giving an opportunity to a guy that sounds like such a pain in the ass to work with and who has such a hard time not talking about the project.

It may be a plausible explanation for just how many of Adam's efforts never see the light of day despite allegedly being awesome. It's hard to believe every single distributor would pass up on his movie seeing as how great it was just because they "didn't get it" as Adam alleges. And the same goes for all of his failed pilots. If they were so great, why didn't they ever make air? Why wasn't he approached to do a second season of ACP by TLC? According to Adam, they just "petered out" or he "never heard anything", and never has any idea why his stuff keeps getting binned. Maybe the executives just totally blow him off time and again, because he's such a pain in the ass.

This post has been edited by Pandajuice on November 10, 2009 08:49 am